BREAKING NEWS: Hawaii Democrats are button-lipped on Obama eligibility status… as new documents indicate they were covering up the truth!

Barack Hussein Obama, a man without a country!

Below is a very important article from WorldNetDaily.

You know as we look at this Obama phenomenon, we can see that there have been so many contradictions between what this man says and what he does; and so many flip flops on various issues; where he says one thing and then later does the complete opposite. Well we can thank God because it now appears that just maybe Obama’s chickens are coming home to roast!

This is something that we ALL need to understand, and that is how we are told in the Bible (in the Book of Numbers chapter 32, verse 23) in no uncertain terms: “That our sin shall find us out;” and in Galatians 6 we are told: “Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap.

Folks, this is why we ALL need a Saviour, and this is what the Good News of the Gospel says, because on this one note, outside of our being forgiven and in Covenant relationship with Jesus Christ, we ALL are guilty and are without hope!

So on that note, as the Apostel Paul did with King Agrippa, when he tried to win him over to Christ; likewise we need to pray for these people in DC.

One thing is clear and we can know this from the Bible, that these people by themselves are NOT the enemy, but that they are deceived and are being used and manipulated by the enemy, who is Satan.

I want to also say, least any of us lose perspective, that the only difference between these people in Washington DC, among those who are literally destroying our country, who have betrayed it and have sold us out, all in order to implement a Globalist agenda for a “New World Order,” is that they have not had the benefit of having had an encounter with the Living God, and outside of that fact, they are only doing what comes natural for all of us, as there is no good thing in any of us outside of Jesus Christ!

As illustrated in the above pictures, if there is any one thing I can say for Obama, it is that the ONLY unwaivering truth that has come out of  this man and his Administration from day one is that he never really has wavered on where his true loyalties lie; and based on both his words and actions, we can know most certainly that they do NOT lie with the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob; and they also do not lie with the United States!

Please let us just keep praying that the whole truth be known, and not just about Obama either; but that this entire web of deceit and lies be unraveled on both sides, in both parties (Democrat and Republican), that has existed in our government for years (going back before 1871) when our government usurped our organic constitution and replaced it with a corporate constitution; and for those who don’t know either the history nor the significance of that act, and how it has effected our history, and has brought us to where we are today, here are four videos that you need to see:



This is without a doubt the greatest fraud that has ever been perpetrated upon the American people in our history, and it is continuing until this present day; and there is one thing that is for sure, we cannot correct what we don’t know about!!!

Just pray that the truth be known; that America wakes up; and that “We the People” will take back our country, and restore our Constitutional Republic!

Shalom,

Skip Barland







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Hawaii Dems button-lipped on Obama eligibility status

Doc missing statement candidate ‘qualified’ under U.S. Constitution


Posted: September 25, 2010
10:10 pm Eastern

By Bob Unruh
© 2010 WorldNetDaily


BORN IN THE USA?
WorldNetDaily Exclusive

Hawaii Dems button-lipped
on Obama eligibility status

Doc missing statement candidate
‘qualified’ under U.S. Constitution


Posted: September 25, 2010
10:10 pm Eastern

By Bob Unruh


It long has been documented that when Barack Obama was picked by the Democratic Party to be its 2008 presidential candidate, only one state – Hawaii – was sent a document from Nancy Pelosi certifying that he was qualified under the requirements of the U.S. Constitution.

Now a series of blogs reports are heating up the issue again, this time revealing documents that showed it apparently was Hawaii’s local Democratic Party that refused to include that certification on its paperwork naming Obama as its candidate.

Even today, the Hawaii Democratic Party was staying mum, declining attempts by WND to obtain a comment on why it handled the 2008 presidential race paperwork as it did.

The original report came from a commentator at Canada Free Press who revealed the Democrats failed to certify their candidate’s eligibility in 49 of the 50 states.

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“In most states,” writer JB Williams said at the time last year, “it appears that the DNC never certified constitutional eligibility for Barack Hussein Obama, despite their many claims of proper vetting and certification, all of which we now know to be false.”

As WND reported, Williams released copies of two documents apparently prepared by Democrats to certify  Obama as their nominee for president. One contains language affirming his constitutional eligibility, filed in Hawaii where state law requires the specific language, and another omits the language, filed in the remaining 49 states.

Now a series of reports, including those from blogger JBJD, the butterdezillion blog,
Obama Release Your Records blog and the Fellowshipofminds blog, are revealing the local state party’s stance in 2008.

The issue also has been addressed on a YouTube video already:


The blog reports cite each other, as well as apparent Democratic Party documents posted online from the 2000, 2004 and 2008 elections.

The images reveal the change in wording that Hawaii Democrats adopted when Obama was their candidate.

In choosing Al Gore and Joe Lieberman in 2000, this was their statement:

“THIS IS TO CERTIFY that the following candidates for President and Vice-President of the United States are legally qualified to serve under the provisions of the United States Constitution and are the duly chosen candidates of both the state and the national Democratic Parties by balloting at the Presidential Preference Poll and Caucus held March 7, 2000 in the State of Hawaii and by acclamation at the National Democratic Convention held August 14-17, 2000 in Los Angeles, California.”


Hawaii state Dem certification in 2000

The wording was almost identical on behalf of John Kerry and John Edwards in 2004:


Hawaii state Dem certification in 2004

But in 2008, the words missing include “the provisions of the United States Constitution.” It states, “THIS IS TO CERTIFY that the following candidates for President and Vice President of the United States are legally qualified to serve under the provisions of the national Democratic Parties balloting at the Presidential Preference Poll and Caucus held on February 19th, 2008, in the State of Hawaii and by acclamation at the National Democratic Convention held August 27, 2009, in Denver, Colorado.”


Hawaii state Dem certification in 2008

At “Fellowship,” the blogger explained that each state party must certify that their candidate is constitutionally eligible to be president.

“What the Democratic Party of Hawaii’s 2008 Certification of Nomination left out are these words: ‘of the United States Constitution and are the duly chosen candidates of both the state and,'” the blogger wrote.

“In other words, by omitting the above words, the Democractic Party of Hawaii (DPH) was signaling the following: 1. DPH is merely certifying that Obama is legally qualified to serve as president by virtue of the ballots of the Democratic Parties of the 50 states. The DPH is not certifying that Obama is legally qualified to serve as president under the provisions of the U.S. Constitution! 2. The DPH is also saying that Obama and Biden are NOT the chosen candidates of the state of Hawaii,” he concluded.

The butterdezillion blog noted “the Hawaii Democratic Party actually ignored their protocols in 2008 in order to specifically NOT certify Obama’s eligibility as they had done for candidates in the past.”

It was Williams who earlier released copies of two documents apparently prepared by national Democrats to certify Obama as their nominee for president.

The first includes a verification that Obama and Joe Biden, then-candidate for vice president, “are legally qualified to serve under the provisions of the United States Constitution.”


One image of the certification for Barack Obama’s nomination, including the affirmation Obama and Joe Biden “are legally qualified to serve under the provisions of the United States Constitution”

The second form obtained by Williams appears identical. They both have the same typographical error in “though,” but in this one, the verification of eligibility under the requirements of the U.S. Constitution is gone.


Another image of a certification, on which the certification of eligibility has been removed

Williams reported that Republicans use a document universally that affirms their candidate’s eligibility and that Democrats have used the form that omits the certification language in previous elections. But he nonetheless questions why the DNC certified Obama’s eligibility only in Hawaii.

Democratic National Committee officials have declined to comment on the issue of the multiple images. Pelosi and the White House also have declined to respond.

WND has reported on dozens of legal challenges to Obama’s status as a “natural born citizen.” The Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, states, “No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President.”

Some of the lawsuits over the dispute question whether he was actually born in Hawaii, as he insists. If he was born out of the country, Obama’s American mother, the suits contend, was too young at the time of his birth to confer American citizenship to her son under the law at the time.

Other challenges have focused on Obama’s citizenship through his father, a Kenyan subject to the jurisdiction of the United Kingdom at the time of his birth, thus making him a dual citizen. The cases contend the framers of the Constitution excluded dual citizens from qualifying as natural born.

Complicating the situation is Obama’s decision to spend sums estimated over $1 million to avoid releasing a state birth certificate that would put to rest the questions.

WND has reported that among the documentation not yet available for Obama includes his kindergarten records, Punahou school records, Occidental College records, Columbia University records, Columbia thesis, Harvard Law School records, Harvard Law Review articles, scholarly articles from the University of Chicago, passport, medical records, files from his years as an Illinois state senator, his Illinois State Bar Association records, any baptism records, and his adoption records.

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16 thoughts on “BREAKING NEWS: Hawaii Democrats are button-lipped on Obama eligibility status… as new documents indicate they were covering up the truth!”

  1. The officials of the government of Hawaii, which is under a Republican governor’s administration, have confirmed repeatedly that Obama was born in Hawaii, and most recently the governor has herself.

    Birth in the USA is sufficient for Natural Born Citizen status.

    That is why such prominent conservative Senators who are also lawyers as Orren Hatch and Lindsay Graham say that a Natural Born Citizen is simply one who was born in the USA:

    Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC), said:

    “Every child born in the United States is a natural-born United States citizen except for the children of diplomats.” (December 11, 2008 letter to constituent)

    Senator Orrin G. Hatch (R-UT), said:

    “What is a natural born citizen? Clearly, someone born within the United States or one of its territories is a natural born citizen.” (Senate Judiciary Committee hearing hearing on OCTOBER 5, 2004)

    1. First off, this isn’t a partisan problem it is a Constitutional crisis; and in my opinion the Republicans are just as guilty for not seeing that Obama was properly vetted to begin with. Congress certainly demanded that McCain show his documentation and proof of birth, which he did without hesitancy, as he was born in Panama, because his father was station there in the U.S. Navy. No such demand was ever made on Obama.

      I know what has been stated by certain Hawaii officials and what Obama’s own people have said on this issue, but the truth is this guy and neither could you or I for that matter, couldn’t even get a U.S. Passport with this supposed Short Form Birth Certificate, called a “Certificate of Live Birth,” that is issued by the State of Hawaii, it is not the same as the Long Form; and what’s more, Obama couldn’t even get a job as a cook in the White House with it, as it wouldn’t meet even the minimum security background check requirements, and that is a fact.

      Just take a look for yourself, and then take a look at your own birth certificate… do you see any difference? I mean come on, this isn’t rocket science here.

      Now compare the Certificate of Live Birth with an actual copy of a Long Form Birth Certificate that was issued in Hawaii in 1963:

      Now ask yourself do you see any difference?

      All these short form, “Certification of Live Birth” form reveals is that his Birth Registration was FILED in 1961 but that doesn’t mean that he was actually born in Hawaiian.

      Check this out:

      Pay close attention to the following Hawaiian legal statute:

      “[§338-17.8] Certificates for children born out of State.

      (a) Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child.

      (b) Proof of legal residency shall be submitted to the director of health in any manner that the director shall deem appropriate. The director of health may also adopt any rules pursuant to chapter 91 that he or she may deem necessary or proper to prevent fraudulent applications for birth certificates and to require any further information or proof of events necessary for completion of a birth certificate.

      (c) The fee for each application for registration shall be established by rule adopted pursuant to chapter 91. [L 1982, c 182, §1]”

      According to this statue any adult could apply for this document, as long as an he can walk into Hawaii’s version of the Department of Records and provide proof that they are a legal resident of Hawaii.

      For a child, however, they could have been born in Hawaii, Kenya, or a back-alley in Budapest.

      Also, according to the Obama campaign people, In 1981 — the year Obama transferred from Occidental College to Columbia University — Obama visited his mother and sister Maya in Indonesia; and after that visit, Obama traveled to Pakistan with a friend from college whose family was from there.

      Now mind you this was at a time when Pakistan was off limits to American citizens, and so he could not have gotten into Pakistan with an American passport.

      According to the Obama campaign people, they said that Obama was in Pakistan for about three weeks, staying with his friend’s family in Karachi and that he also visited Hyderabad in Southern India.

      It is believed that he used an Indonesian passport, because that is his only legal citizenship; but if that were not true, then why not show us his U.S. passport?

      That would provide proof of his U.S. citizenship; or if he has lost it, then there would be a record that it was issued; and he could use that, instead of spending all these millions in attorney fees to stonewall any attempt to look at his early records.

      Also it is alleged that Obama attended college as a foreign student, and that he got aid as a foreign student, and that is also the reason why he won’t allow these early records to be shown.

      Was Obama’s paternal grandmother lying in the interview (which you can hear on line) that was done right after he won the election, before this controversy started, when she said that she was present at his birth?

      Was the Kenyan ambassador lying when he said Obama was born in Kenya? I think not.

      What about the former Hawaii state election official who had access to this information, who said it didn’t exist (see: http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=165041)?

      What about the matter of Obama’s Social Security Card?

      How did it happen that Obama is using a Social Security number that is reserved for Connecticut applicants, and how does he explain that it was issued at a date later than he is known to have held employment?

      Take a look at the following article: http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=165225.

      I thank you for your response, but I have to say that on this matter of the birth certificate, and Obama’s place of birth, and the question regarding even his U.S. citizenship, the evidence provided just doesn’t hold water and it doesn’t stack up; and I’m glad to say that from the looks of things, this lie is about to be exposed, and I pray it happens soon.

      I don’t care what we have been told by the governor or any other official, the above article shows it all has been a cover up and a lie.

  2. Re: The former election official. He actually did NOT have access to the birth certificate files. Also, he never said that he got the information from the birth certificate files. He said that he got it from other officials. He said that “everybody knew.” But that has not been shown to be true. After all, he said it about three months ago, and not one single official or former official has come forward to confirm his allegation.

    As we know, people are quite capable of making up lies in this case. There is, for example, the multiple cases of forged “Kenyan birth certificates.” Since there is no confirmation, the claim by the former election official is just like them. There is no penalty if he is proven to have lied.

    In contrast, four state officials of Hawaii have said that the facts in Obama’s files show that he was born in Hawaii. They all would be subject to penalties if they were proven to have lied. At the very least, the Republican governor of Hawaii would not be elected again or appointed to any job in a Republican administration. There is therefore, the official Hawaiian document, which says on it that Obama was born in Hawaii (and Hawaii does not and did not in 1961 allow a birth document of any kind to be issued to someone with a Hawaiian place of birth unless there was proof of birth in Hawaii). Then there are the notices in the newspapers, which were generated only by official forms from the government sent out only for births IN Hawaii.

    Then, there is this witness, who recalls being told of Obama’s birth in Hawaii and writing home about it (http://www.buffalonews.com/incoming/article137495.ece).

    In addition, we have the words of Obama’s Kenyan grandmother, who by the way NEVER said that Obama was born in Kenya. That is a lie by professional birther sites who cut off the tape just before she is asked the question “Where was he born?” She answers that question that Obama was born in Hawaii “where his father was studying at the time.” And she said in another interview that the first that her family in Kenya had heard of Obama’s birth was in a letter from Hawaii.

    So, there is legal proof, confirmed by the officials and by witnesses, that Obama was born in Hawaii. There is no proof that he was born anywhere else. The Kenya theory is laughable. Two poor college students go from Hawaii, where there are good hospitals, to Kenya, where there are bad hospitals, BEFORE the birth of a child (when after is better for the woman and safer) at enormous expense (trips in 1961 cost LOTS more than they do now on a 2010 dollar basis) and then manage to smuggle the child home and register him in Hawaii.

    They did not, of course, even go from Hawaii to Kenya. The Kenya birth theory also ignores the need for US travel documents for the child. If a person were born in Kenya, she or he would need a US travel document to get to the USA. That would be either a US visa on a foreign passport or the change to his mother’s US passport to include him. One or the other would have had to have been applied for at a US Consulate in Kenya and granted before the child would be allowed to enter the USA.

    If such a document existed, it would be easy to find because the records of the application for the visa or for the change to the mother’s passport would still be in the files of the US State Department, filed under applications for visas and applications for changes to passports in Kenya in 1961. The Republicans were in charge of the US State Department until January 2009. No such document has been found. No such document exists.

    Obama was not born in Kenya. He was born in Hawaii, as his official birth certificate from Hawaii shows, and the facts on it were repeatedly confirmed by the officials in Hawaii. Obama has already posted a copy of the official birth certificate, the Certification of Live Birth, which is the only birth document that Hawaii has been sending out since 2001. Hawaii no longer sends out copies of the original birth certificate, only of the official birth certificate: The Certification of Live Birth.

    Re: “Pay close attention to the following Hawaiian legal statute:”

    Re: The legal statue you have quoted was passed in 1982. That was more than twenty years after Obma’s birth. When Obama was born, in 1961, ONLY birth certificates from HAWAII could be filed in a Hawaiian birth certificate file. In their first confirmation, the officials in Hawaii said that there is an original birth certificate (not a certification of Hawaiian birth, which is always referred to as a certification of hawaiian birth) in the file.

    Moreover, even now under the 1982 statute, it DOES NOT ALLOW Hawaii to issue a birth document of any kind that says on it that a person was born in Hawaii, unless there was proof that the child actually was born in Hawaii. Sure, they do issue Certifications, but they are Hawaiian certifications with the actual place of birth on them. They read something like: “Hawaiian certification of live birth; Place of Birth: Chicago.” But Obama’s Certification says on it that Obama was born in Honolulu, Oahu, Honolulu.” And this is the fact that the officials in Hawaii confirmed in their second announcement, which said that the document in the files “verifies” that Obama was born in Hawaii.

    Re Pakistan. That is a myth. It WAS NOT ON ANY “NO TRAVEL LIST” IN 1981 so any US citizen could visit using a US passport. Obama had had a US passport from at least the time when he returned from Indonesia to attend high school in Hawaii (probably earlier, when he went to Indonesia in the first place, but he MAY have traveled on his mother’s US passport). This can be shown because (1) he returned from Indonesia to Hawaii without his mother; (2) if he had used any passport other than a US passport, it would have had to have had a US visa on it, and there is no record of a US visa application for him in Jakarta at the time.

    Re having allegedly lost his citizenship and become an Indonesian citizen. Answer: That is not true and even silly (because you cannot lose US citizenship without making a formal renunciation in writing). The way to find out whether Obama was ever citizen of Indonesia is simply to ask the Indonesian government about it. The folks at the Indonesian Embassy in Washington have been asked this numerous times (and also about the claims that the was adopted in Indonesia, which also is not true, and that he had had an Indonesian passport, which also is not true). They will tell you if you call that Obama was never an Indonesian citizen.

    Then how about the application to an Indonesian school that says that he was an Indonesian citizen? Answer, that is an unsigned application. If that school took only Indonesian citizens, it was normal for parents of non-Indonesian children to simply lie about their citizenship in order to get their children into the right schools. Do parents ever lie in order to get their children into the right schools? YES. In any case, it is not signed, so we do not know whether the form was simply filled in by a clerk, in which case it was his lie, or whether it was stated by the parents. It does NOT prove that Obama became an Indonesian citizen, and the Indonesian government says that he did not become an Indonesian citizen. And, more important, he never lost the US citizenship or natural born status that he received by being born in Hawaii.

    1. As a citizen who loves my country and who has learned over the years not to believe everything I hear, I have learned that if I want to know the truth I have to wade through the rhetoric and spin that the media gives, and I have to do my own homework. Likewise, other citizens are going to have to do the same.

      On this issue regarding Obama’s citizenship, much of this is just plain common sense. The fact is, no person in his right mind would ever go through all of this trouble and legal expense over something that is so easy to prove; something that you and I and every other citizen has had to prove countless times, and that is our U.S. citizenship. The way we prove it is by producing a long form birth certificate, and not this sad excuse for a birth certificate that Obama has… no one would go through all this trouble and expense, unless they are hiding something!

      Item 1: You say: “Regarding the former election official. He actually did NOT have access to the birth certificate files. Also, he never said that he got the information from the birth certificate files. He said that he got it from other officials. He said that “everybody knew.” But that has not been shown to be true. After all, he said it about three months ago, and not one single official or former official has come forward to confirm his allegation.”

      Response: After having read the WND article (http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=165041%29?), please listen to the following report: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3WUbLGCVYk&feature=related

      Item 2: You say: “There is, for example, the multiple cases of forged “Kenyan birth certificates.” Since there is no confirmation, the claim by the former election official is just like them.”

      Response: The following video blog covers a host of these subjects, including the Kenyan Birth Certificate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QdyLOUHz-A

      Item 3: You say: “Regarding the witness, who recalls being told of Obama’s birth in Hawaii and writing home about it (http://www.buffalonews.com/incoming/article137495.ece).”

      Response: http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=87233

      Item 4: You say, after quoting from my comment on how we have the words of Obama’s Kenyan grandmother, you say that she “NEVER said that Obama was born in Kenya. That is a lie by professional birther sites who cut off the tape just before she is asked the question ‘Where was he born?’ She answers that question that Obama was born in Hawaii ‘where his father was studying at the time.’ And she said in another interview that the first that her family in Kenya had heard of Obama’s birth was in a letter from Hawaii.”

      Response: Listen for yourself to the original interview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlFc4wCpvSo&feature=related. You say it is a lie and that the tape is cut off before she is asked the question. Well in this recording you can not only hear the question, but you can also hear her response.

      Also take a look at this WND article: http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=78931.

      Philip J.Berg, a registered Democrat and former Deputy Attorney General of Pennsylvania, has filed a lawsuit regarding Obama’s eligibility. Listen to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA6_k3NtXZs&feature=player_embedded.

      Even Michelle Obama, in a speech which she gave, called Kenya Obama’s home country: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBJihJBePcs.

      Also look at this Israeli article that exposes this controversy: http://www.israelnationalnews.com/blogs/message.aspx/3074.

      Obviously you are a supporter of Obama, and I assume that you are a Democrat; well I have been a registered Republican for all of my adult life, and I both supported and I voted for both George H.W. Bush, and also George W. Bush. I can’t tell you how disappointed and angry I was when I found out the truth behind both of these men.

      This is NOT a partisan issue, and nor is it a issue of race, color, or of a person’s religion; but this is a Constitutional issue; and whether you are talking about the Democratic Party or the Republican Party, as Alan Keyes has said, they are like two sides of the same coin, at least when it comes to the Globalist “New World Order” agenda.

      Partisan issues aside, as Americans, unless we do our homework and unless we demand accountability of our politicians, and take back our country from lying criminals who violate and ignore their oath of office to preserve, protect, and defend our U.S. Constitution, then we will go the way of every other “Democracy” in history, and we will find this move towards Socialism will end in a complete loss of ALL our Constitutional Rights, and the eventual enslavement of the American people under a dictatorial ruler, just as happened in pre-Nazi Germany.

      The fact is, we are making the same mistakes today as they did back in the 1930’s.

      I sincerely respect your opinions, and I thank God we still have the right to express them; but I couldn’t disagree with you more.

    1. On that one point we both are in agreement then, that we both love our country.

      This is what is at stake, because it is this very freedom to agree to disagree and to put these issues out in the open and discuss them in a public forum, without reprisal or censorship, that makes us different form many other countries and governments, where people don’t have that same freedom.

      May God help us, and may America wake up before its too late; that we may restore our Constitutional Republic, and the rule of law under our organic Constitution, as our founding fathers originally intended.

      May no government official be allowed to abridge our First Amendment rights; and may they make no laws respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of free speech, or of freedom of the press; or the right of the people to peaceably assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

      We are supposed to be a government of the People; by the People; and for the People; and we as citizens are the sovereigns here, and the government rules by our permission, according to the dictates and requirments of our U.S. Constitution, which sets the limits of the powers that our Federal Government can have.

      Our Federal government has long ago exceeded those powers and especially today, under this Obama Administration, they are doing things that are in direct violation of our Constitution.

      What used to be called our Constitutional Rights, under this U.S. CORPORATION, is slowing being changed to privileges, which some bureaucrat, or Czar, can at their whim take from us.

      This has to be stopped, if we are to preserve our liberty and our freedoms!

      May Americans like you and I continue to have the freedom that our First Amendment gives to us, to debate our differences; and have the freedom of speech, and of the press; or the right to peaceably assemble, and to petition our government for redress of grievances.

      May we learn from history:

      “A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.” –Marcus Tullius Cicero 42B.C.

      There are those within our government today who would have these liberties taken from us; and these people are the people who most threaten us.

      Again, I want to thank you for your comments and all your input; and also for hearing me out, and listening to my opinions and the issues that I think are important.

      Bless you.

  3. Bless you too. The issues are important, and all the FACTS show that Obama was born in Hawaii and that he never lost his citizenship, was never adopted, never received an Indonesian passport, never received financial aid as a foreign student, Etc. That being the case, he is just an ordinary president, somewhat to the right of FDR, Truman and LBJ.

    1. The issues are very important and that is why it is imperative that America wake up to what’s going on, because our very freedom is now in jeopardy.

      There is a verse in the Bible, in the Book of Romans, where God said that He gave the people over to believe a lie, because of their stubborn refusal to recognize the truth and all the evidence that was all around them regarding His existence.

      Well, on this issue, I see that same kind of malaise over much of America today; where in spite of ALL the evidence, many people are choosing to believe a lie, rather than face the truth; and I can only hope and pray America wakes up in time to save our country.

      The people who put Obama in office knew that he would be as a Trojan Horse, and that is why they selected him.

      This is not at all a racial issue, and to support this man, in spite of all the evidence that he is not who he claims to be is just not wise. There are many people today who are supporting Obama simply because of the color of his skin, because they think that he is Black, which he is not, as the evidence shows that he is 63.75% Arabic (owed to his father’s ethnic bloodline), he is 50% white, and he is only 6.25% African, and to believe anything else is in and of itself a decision to believe another lie!

      By the way, as anyone would know, with regard to the charges that he even forged his “Certificate of Live Birth,” if you will note he is listed on that form as being “Black.” Well everyone knows that back in the early sixties, no one who was of African-American ancestry was ever called “Black,” as that was before that term came into vogue. On the contrary, on any public document, in that time, the term that was used was “Negro.”

      On the subject of looking at the FACTS, did you ever see this video from an expert on the subject of forgeries? This man was also asked to give testimony in the lawsuit; and it was because his life was threaten that he had to conceal his identity in this interview:

      On the subject of Obama, I believe that Alan Keyes has hit the nail on the head, and I can only hope that America wakes up in time to save our country:

      Really the only good thing that I can say that has come out of this Obama Administration is that he has driven America to its knees to pray.

      Constitutionally, from the standpoint of his failure to produce evidence of what you say are FACTS, and because he has instead blocked every attempt to see his early records, and also because of the way he is ripping our Constitution to shreds by what he is doing to our country, the man is an absolute disaster and is the worst president we have ever had!

      I agree with these people, and apparently more and more, according his dismal public approval ratings of late, so does most of the rest of America:

      However, I can see that you obviously are a die hard supporter, and so we are just going to have to agree to disagree :-).

      Bless you and thank you again for your input and comments.

      Skip

  4. Re: “from the standpoint of his failure to produce evidence of what you say are FACTS, and because he has instead blocked every attempt to see his early records…”

    It is a myth that he has blocked access to early records. There has not been a lawsuit against Obama either for his birth certificate or for records. The lawsuits you are referring to were mainly attempts to stop the election or stop the Congress from certifying the election (which it did, unanimously) or stop the Inauguration. There was never a lawsuit that simply asked Obama to deliver a birth certificate or records to a court. NEVER.

    Obama, of course, has already shown the official birth certificate of Hawaii, and the facts on it were confirmed by the officials in Hawaii, and the witness and the grandmother and the governor of Hawaii. As for his college records, kindergarten records and other stuff, there is no law that says that he or any presidential candidate or president has to show this material, and none of them have (Bush’s were leaked by Yale, but Bush did not show them).

    A blessing on all our American presidents, all 44, including Obama.

    1. I apologize, as I went back and posted this video in my comments (above), and so maybe you didn’t see it; but this video shows that even what Obama is putting forth as his “official” birth certificate, in this “Certificate of Live Birth,” even that is a forgery.

      You are calling everything I say a “Myth,” and that Obama has not barred access to his records. Well perhaps you didn’t see, or were not aware of the following:

      You also say that there haven’t been any lawsuits challenging his eligibility, and demanding to see those records. Well that is also not true!

      http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/aug/28/lawsuit-questions-obamas-eligibility-for-office/

      http://www.postchronicle.com/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi?archive=102&num=181708

      http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politics/2008471191_obamaborn05.html

      The FACTS are everything about this man, starting with his obvious contradictions and lies that he made in his campaign, beginning with Reverend Wright, and how he never heard any of the hateful speech in all his 20 years of association with the man; and then he comes out later and says just the opposite; and there is his association with all the many avowed socialists men, who were his mentors, and even there is an associaton with a sixties Weatherman terrorist, by the name of William Ayers, which he tried to minimize.

      This man has done nothing but lie his whole political career, and he has constantly been caught on camera contradicting himself over and over; while most of these obvious contradictions goes unoticed by his adoring media; but fortunately I believe that is changing, as I believe that most Americas are finally getting hip to what a fraud this man is.

      Say what you will, but the evidence that I have attempted to present to you in all of these comments, I believe at the very least, they should give you pause to think and they should present some reasonable doubt in your mind that this man Obama is not what he claims to be, and that he is a fraud.

    2. You said in your comment post that: “It is a myth that he has blocked access to early records. There has not been a lawsuit against Obama either for his birth certificate or for records. The lawsuits you are referring to were mainly attempts to stop the election or stop the Congress from certifying the election (which it did, unanimously) or stop the Inauguration. There was never a lawsuit that simply asked Obama to deliver a birth certificate or records to a court. NEVER.”

      The court law suits that have challenged Obama’s elgibilty have been several, and the numbers I believe are increasing. It is a matter of public record, and also it is a matter of public record that Obama as his first executive orders to be issued in office was to seal ALL his records! This too is a matter of public record.

      Here is another video recording regarding an ongoing case that you should see, that again says what I’ve been saying all along.

  5. Re: The claim that the posted birth certificate is a forgery. This is also made-up baloney. The McCain campaign looked into it, and found that it was false–as were the claims of birth in Kenya. The officials in Hawaii, have as discussed repeatedly confirmed the FACTS on the certificate and never said a word about it being forged. You would think that they would have, if it were, after all it is their certificate and they are under a Republican governor.

    WND disproved the allegations of forgery (not that it proved that the document was authentic; it just disproved the allegations of forgery), and it a totally devastating statement (which I will reproduce in a moment), it said that the guys who had made the claims of forgery actually forged parts of the documents themselves, then posted them, then said that the document was forged.

    Here is the WND site http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=73214

    And, here is what it said:

    “A separate WND investigation into Obama’s certification of live birth utilizing forgery experts also found the document to be authentic. The investigation also revealed methods used by some of the bloggers to determine the document was fake involved forgeries, in that a few bloggers added text and images to the certificate scan that weren’t originally there.

    (Editor’s note: WND’s investigation into the certification of live birth did not include inspecting the actual document, but only asking experts to evaluate the online image. Those experts, therefore, could not “prove” the document’s authenticity. The experts told WND merely that many of the forgery claims made against the image were inconclusive or falsified, leaving them no evidence that would cast doubt on the image’s authenticity.) ”

    Looks like the guys who claimed that the document was forged were like the guy who claimed to have gone to Kenya and claimed to have found a “birth certificate.” They are like the guys who claim that Pakistan was on a “no travel list” in 1981, so Obama could not have used a US passport. (It was not on any “no travel list,” nor did it keep US citizens from visiting). It is like the guys who keep posting “the case has gotten to the Supreme Court” (when it hasn’t), and the guys who keep posting “Occidential College has released Obama’s documents” (when it hasn’t) or “the grandmother said he was born in Kenya” (when she said he was born in Hawaii).

    NO wonder Glenn Beck, Ann Coulter and Bill O’Reilly think that birthers are crazy.

    Re: “they should give you pause to think and they should present some reasonable doubt in your mind that this man Obama is not what he claims to be, and that he is a fraud.’

    No, the birthers who are constantly lying are the frauds. The facts that they have alleged were sent to the US Congress before the vote to confirm Obama. Congress confirmed his election UNANIMOUSLY. There are 535 members of Congress, one hundred senators and 435 in the House, and not ONE of them thought that there was a shred of evidence that Obama was born in Kenya (a laughable idea when you come down to it) or that his Hawaiian birth certificate was forged and that the officials in Hawaii were lying about it.

    1. You keep talking about the Birthers, well this is not at all a Birther issue; nor is it a racial issue; and by the way for the record, I am not a Birther.

      America has got to get hip to the fact that if we are going to preserve our Constitution and our freedom then ALL Americans, regardless of race, color, or creed, are going to have to unite and join forces together on the issue of TRUTH, because as long as we remain divided and separated over these side partisan issues, apart from the Constitutional issue, then we will all ultimately fall together… just as happened in pre-Nazi Germany!

      You mention that Congress has failed to bring this eligibility issue to the forefront, and on that I agree with you.

      There is a movement in our country to permanently undo and eliminate our Constitutional Republic (a process which began back in 1871), and take us into a “New World Order;” a term that was first introduced publicly by a Republican President, George H.W. Bush, who by the way I supported and voted for; but what he did not say, and what I did not know when I voted for him, was that this “New World Order” will be a totalitarian dictatorship, that will eventually become the “One World Government” and monetary system spoken of in the Bible, consisting of a mark on either the forehead or on the right hand.

      I repeat, this is not at all a partisan issue, because as is evident by the fact Congress has failed to enforce our Constitution, as I have said before, this just goes to prove that both parties are complicit, at least in its leadership, in supporting this “New World Order” agenda; and the fact is, Obama is just the front man to bring it about in our country.

      I have attempted to do more than just make charges, I have given you evidence in the form of youtube videos, and various newspaper articles to support my point; but such as it is, I have nevertheless failed to convince you.

      So on that note, I will just bid you adieu; and I will leave you to believe whatever you want.

      As I’ve said before I do honestly repect your opinions, and I appreciate your input, because it gives me a chance to educate other people who visit my blog as to what the other side is; and we both get to put everything out on the table so people can make up their own mind.

      As I have said, we can both thank God that we still have the right to air our opinions and disagree, and we still have that right so far, no thanks to Obama and his administration, which has shown nothing but disdain for those who dare to disagree with him; and yet you and I can disagree and still not be disagreeable.

      God bless and have a nice day,

      Skip

  6. Okay, you are not a birther.

    Four officials of the state of Hawaii, and a witness who was told about Obama’s birth and wrote home about it and Obama’s Kenyan grandmother all say that he was born in Hawaii. But you say that there is reason not to believe them. They all would have to be lying, and the birth certificate forged AND Obama would have had to have been born somewhere outside of the USA (such as perhaps Kenya, which is crazy considering the risk and expense of such a trip in 1961), and you still do not believe them.

    Birth Notices were published in Hawaiian newspapers in 1961, which were only generated by the government of Hawaii. They were not ads, and not placed by relatives. So an official government notice from Hawaii must have gone to the newspapers in 1961. Notices were only sent out for births IN Hawaii. The proof that the notices were in the newspapers are contained in the microfilms of the newspapers and public libraries. But still, you do not believe.

    Healthy skepticism is good but at this point it gets to be like insisting that the earth is flat. The evidence is overwhelming that Obama was born in Hawaii. Why would four Hawaiian officials (including the Republican governor) lie about such a thing? The risks are far too high if they were caught. AND, in order to think that they would lie, you have to think that all four of them are pretty miserable people. “Judge not, least ye be judged.”

    You say that you are not a birther. Okay. I have not criticized you. I have condemned as liars the folks who have forged documents and lied about the facts. This is fundamentally immoral, and it puts the entire “not a Natural Born Citizen” movement in a bad light. No wonder that Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck and Bill O’Reilly think that birthers are crazy.

    Re: “Congress has failed to bring this eligibility issue to the forefront, and on that I agree with you. ”

    It is not that Congress has failed to bring the eligibility issue to the forefront. It is that there are as many members of Congress who seriously believe that Obama was born outside the USA as there are members of Congress who believe that 1+1 = 3. Obama’s election was confirmed UNANIMOUSLY by the US Congress. Even the “birther bill,” the proposed legislation that would make future candidates for president prove their place of birth, calls for the official birth certificate of the state, the same birth certificate that Obama showed.

    Re: “I have given you evidence in the form of youtube videos, and various newspaper articles to support my point…”

    Answer. You have quoted mainly from birther sites, sites which have carried lies such as that Obama’s Kenyan grandmother said that he was born in Kenya (when she said that he was born in Hawaii). Here is a reliable newspaper, the Wall Street Journal:

    “Obama has already provided a legal birth certificate demonstrating that he was born in Hawaii. No one has produced any serious evidence to the contrary. Absent such evidence, it is unreasonable to deny that Obama has met the burden of proof. We know that he was born in Honolulu as surely as we know that Bill Clinton was born in Hope, Ark., or George W. Bush in New Haven, Conn.”

    As Voltaire said: “I do not agree with a word you say, but I would fight to the death for your right to say it.”

    Blessings

  7. Re: “It is a matter of public record, and also it is a matter of public record that Obama as his first executive orders to be issued in office was to seal ALL his records!”

    Where do you get this vast amount of wrong information from? Obama’s first executive order made it HARDER for a president or a former president to seal records. Also, it applies ONLY to the federal presidential records, not to state birth certificate records (or in fact to any state records).

    It cannot apply to state records. States have rights you know. It also does not and cannot apply to college records or legal records, both of which cannot be affected by a federal executive order, but both of which are private. They therefore were not sealed, they are private. Just as private before the executive order as after.

    Re Lt. Col. Lakin. Here is a guy who for the last two years (and as far as I know currently) is accepting a salary check which is probably signed by an appointee of Obama. Here is a guy who for the last two years has been giving orders himself and expecting them to be carried out, and now he decides that because he does not want to go to Afghanistan, he deserves to have Obama’s birth certificate shown to a military court.

    First, this is not a lawsuit against Obama. I said that there were no lawsuits against Obama that asked for the birth certificate. This is instead, a military criminal proceeding against Lakin. IF Obama’s birth certificate were relevant to the proceeding, Obama would provide it. He has already shown the official birth certificate of Hawaii, which the Wall Street Journal has said “would be accepted by any court.”

    But Obama’s birth certificate is irrelevant to the Lakin case. All that matters is whether Lankin was given an order by a superior officer and that it was a legal order. Well, it was a superior officer (a full Col or a general) and it is a legal order because the order to go to Afghanistan is perfectly legal. The war in Afghanistan was approved by Congress in 2001. It did not suddenly become an illegal war because Obama became president.

    If that notion had the slightest validity, then every time we changed presidents then the soldiers and officers would be refusing to go to wars and demanding proof of the president’s eligibility in court. Lakin will most likely be convicted and go to a military prison. Why he wants to do this I do not know, but he wants to be a martyr. There are people like that.

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