Pictures of “Hanoi Jane” in Vietnam
I received this email today (see below) from a friend and brother, a former Marine Master Sergeant (Ret’d), regarding the honoring of Jane Fonda by Obama, and I was asked to pass it along, which I am doing; however I wanted to share my personal opinion and response with all of you.
First of all I want to say that Gene is a brother in the Lord, whom I have known for some years; and I both respect and love as such (as a brother), and also I consider him a friend.
I certainly understand the anger and frustration, especially of those in the military, at the idea of our government honoring a person who has betrayed their country; but I think it is very dangerous for us, as Christians, to say that someone cannot be forgiven, regardless of what they have done!
If our Lord could allow His creation, including you and me, to nail Him to a cross, and then say, “Father forgive them for they know not what they do?” then who are we to harbor unforgiveness against anyone, or say they cannot be forgiven?
Besides, I think we ALL need to look at the bigger picture here, and understand what’s really going on today in our country, and what the real agenda is.
I’m not surprised; and I admit it is wrong to honor someone for betraying his or her country, but that is the way of Washington DC for quite some time, I’m sad to say.
Obama himself would be a traitor, if he were a U.S. citizen, which he isn’t!
But there are others before him, who have sat in the White House and also who have sat in Congress in the past, and today, who are!
Obama is in fact a foreign agent, who is doing all he can to unravel and to destroy our country from within!
As far as unforgiveness goes… nobody, no matter what they have done, in my book anyway, is ever worth that; because the Bible is very clear on this subject, that unless we can forgive and release others (the word “Forgiveness” means to release), then we can’t be forgiven ourselves!
Besides, if a person has truly been born-again, meaning they have repented (which literally means that they have changed the way they think) and have renounced their former life, as all of us who have been born-again have done, then they are a new creation in Christ!
That’s what my Bible says anyway.
God doesn’t close the door for anyone to be reconciled and forgiven as long as they are still alive.
The Bible says for us to pray for our enemies; and it even says for us to love them, which when we understand Agape (Love), by reading 1st Corinthians 13, we understand that this is not at all an emotional response, but it is a decision totally.
However, it doesn’t mean that we have to like them, or want to hang with them… until such time as they have repented and have renounced their former life, including all its former sins, as every Christian must do.
The truth is, for all of us who are born-again, that we must learn to repent, and continue to do that again and again, everyday; because, as Christians we are in no way perfect, we are only forgiven; and NOT because of anything we have done, but only by the grace (unmerited) favor and love of God; howbeit as Christians we nevertheless still mess up every day, and so 1st John 1:9 is a Scripture I have had to commit to memory.
“If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us [our] sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.“
As I’ve said, as Christians, we are not at all perfect, and thus we are not without sin, but thanks to Calvary’s cross and the sacrifice on that cross of Jesus for our sins, we are ALL forgiven… once we repent and are born-again!
Is that not the Gospel’s message, as we read it in the Bible?
In fact the Bible lets us know in no uncertain terms that ALL of us are guilty; that we ALL have missed the mark (have sinned), and therefore have failed God’s requirements for entry into heaven!
We also know from the Bible that ONLY God has the power to recycle human lives, as He has been doing ever since the fall in the Garden of Eden, with our original parents (Adam and Eve).
The truth is it is only God’s love and His unmerited favor for us that has allowed any of this to happen; and the fact that He (God) took on Himself the penalty for our sins, in Yeshua (Jesus–Saviour); and without Him, and without our being born-again and our acceptance by faith of His propitious work on Calvary’s cross, we are ALL lost and up the creek without a paddle!
If a person, any person, does do that however, and if he or she demonstrates the fruit of having done so, then who are we to say they are not forgiven, because of anything they have done in their past life, regardless of what it may be?
Listen to what Jesus has to say on this:
13 No one has ever gone to heaven and returned. But the Son of Man[a] has come down from heaven. 14 And as Moses lifted up the bronze snake on a pole in the wilderness, so the Son of Man must be lifted up, 15 so that everyone who believes in him will have eternal life.[b]
16 “For God loved the world so much that he gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life. 17 God sent his Son into the world not to judge the world, but to save the world through him.
18 “There is no judgment against anyone who believes in him. But anyone who does not believe in him has already been judged for not believing in God’s one and only Son. 19 And the judgment is based on this fact: God’s light came into the world, but people loved the darkness more than the light, for their actions were evil. 20 All who do evil hate the light and refuse to go near it for fear their sins will be exposed. 21 But those who do what is right come to the light so others can see that they are doing what God wants.[c]“
The Bible is very clear that the reason people will be barred from heaven and will be forced to endure eternal separation from God will not be because they have sinned, because we ALL have sinned (which means we have missed the mark); but the reason people will not be accepted into heaven is because they have rejected God’s only avenue for reconciliation, which is our acceptance and faith in Yeshua Ha’Mashiach (Jesus, the Christ—Messiah), our Passover Lamb!
I don’t know Jane Fonda, and I certainly don’t like what I read that she did; but betrayal does not end there.
Just look at the betrayal of our politicians today in DC!!!
As I have been trying to point out, our leadership in Washington DC for the last 139 years, to the extent they have not told the American people the truth, and have supported this de facto UNITED STATES CORPORATION, in favor of the Globalist Bankster’s New World Order, all of them, who have been bought and paid for, who have supported this agenda, are equally guilty of betraying our country and our Constitution, which they ALL swore an oath to preserve, protect and defend; and I mean by that President George W. Bush and his dad; not to mention the Clintons, Obama and most of the rank and file politicians, at least among the leadership of both political parties, in Washington DC for over 100 or more years.
Chew on that for while, and then please let us stop supporting this de facto failed system, and let us retake our government and reinhabit our de jure Constitutional Republic.
That’s my soap box speech for today…
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From: Eugene Spann
Date: Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 5:15 AM
Subject: Fw: NEVER FORGIVE A TRAITOR …………..
OK, the part about the piece of paper from each of the prisoners seems to be in question, but the fact is, SHE IS A TRAITOR! WAS, IS AND ALWAYS WILL BE!
DOES THAT SOUND UNFORGIVING?
IT SHOULD, BECAUSE IT IS!
GO TO SNOPES AND GET EVEN MORE INFORMATION ON WHAT SHE DID AND HOW SHE DID IT. I HEARD HER ON THE RADIO WHILE SERVING IN VIETNAM
EUGENE L. SPANN
MSGT., USMC RET
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From: Eugene Spann
Date: Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 5:15 AM
Subject: Fw: NEVER FORGIVE A TRAITOR
|Never Forgive A Traitor|
For those of you too young to remember Hanoi Jane is a bad person and did some terrible things during the Vietnam war. Things that can not be forgiven!!!!
and now OBAMA wants to honor her……!!!!
In Memory of LT. C.Thomsen Wieland who spent 100 days at the Hanoi Hilton
She really is a traitor
This is for all the kids born in the 70’s and after who do not remember, and didn’t have to bear the burden that our fathers, mothers and older brothers and sisters had to bear..
Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the ‘100 Women of the Century.’
BY BARBRA WALTERS WRITES:
Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country, but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam
The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot’s name is Jerry Driscoll, a River
In 1968, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison the ‘ Hanoi Hilton.’
Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJ’s, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American ‘Peace Activist’ the ‘lenient and humane treatment’ he’d received.
He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and was dragged away. During the subsequent beating, he fell forward
on to the camp Commandant ‘s feet, which sent that officer berserk.
In 1978, the Air Force Colonel still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying career) from the Commandant’s frenzied application of a wooden baton.
From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4E’s). He spent 6 years in the ‘Hanoi Hilton’,,, the first three
They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they were alive and still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his Social Security Number on it , in the palm of his hand.
When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man’s hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: ‘Aren’t you sorry you bombed babies?’ and ‘Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?’ Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper.
She took them all without missing a beat.. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him all the little pieces of paper..
Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Colonel Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know of her actions that day.
I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam , and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held prisoner for over 5 years.
I spent 27 months in solitary confinement; one year in a cage in Cambodia ; and one year in a ‘black box’ in Hanoi My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot , South Vietnam , whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border. At one time, I weighed only about 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs)
We were Jane Fonda’s ‘war criminals….’
When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi , I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with her..
I said yes, for I wanted to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received… and how different it was from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by her as ‘humane and lenient.’
Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees, with my arms outstretched with a large steel weights placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane.
I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda soon after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She never did answer me.
These first-hand experiences do not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of ‘100 Years of Great Women.’ Lest we forget….’ 100 Years of Great Women’ should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots.
There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane’s participation in blatant treason, is one of them. Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can.. It will eventually end up on her computer and
she needs to know that we will never forget. RONALD D. SAMPSON, CMSgt, USAF 716 Maintenance Squadron, Chief of Maintenance DSN: 875-6431 COMM: 883-6343
PLEASE HELP BY SENDING THIS TO EVERYONE IN YOUR ADDRESS BOOK. IF ENOUGH PEOPLE SEE THIS MAYBE HER
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